OPHIRA EISENBERG, HOST:
I’m so excited for our subsequent two company. Bethany Van Delft is a comic who hosts the PBS Digital sequence in regards to the science of parenting referred to as “Parentalogic,” and she or he additionally hosts a podcast for youths about information referred to as “The Ten Information.” Donwill is half of the hip-hop duo Tanya Morgan. Their newest single known as “A Complete Temper” from their upcoming album “Don & Von.” Donwill, Bethany, welcome to ASK ME ANOTHER.
BETHANY VAN DELFT: Hello.
EISENBERG: So wait a second. So I do know you – clearly, Bethany, I do know you from many reveals, comedy approach again. Donwill, I do know you from comedy reveals in New York…
EISENBERG: …Complete smattering of them. However how have you learnt one another?
VAN DELFT: We did a present – I did a present that he was DJing on. And I used to be deeply in my nervousness. And so I do not know what occurred. I feel I carried out. I am undecided.
VAN DELFT: After which I went upstairs. Everyone went upstairs and had drinks. And whereas I used to be gripping my highball glass simply attempting to get the drink to shoot into my face so I may really feel OK, there was music on within the background. I consider it was Chaka Khan, and it was “Papillon.” And that…
DONWILL: It was.
VAN DELFT: …Simply – it calmed my coronary heart. It calmed me. And it – like, Chaka was like, get out of right here, nervousness. And I used to be like (singing) enchan (ph) papillon…
DONWILL: (Singing) Papillon.
VAN DELFT: And I do not even know if these are the phrases or not. After which one other music got here on and one other music. It was just like the soundtrack of my life. After which I used to be completely happy, and I used to be calm. And I regarded over. Donwill’s spinning. He is wanting proper at me. And I used to be like, oh, you noticed that auntie over within the nook bouncing – bouncing, singing the flawed French phrases to “Papillon.”
VAN DELFT: And you are like examine this out auntie. And I used to be like, OK. I see you. Thanks. Thanks.
DONWILL: So the DJ aspect of that story is that normally after we’re DJing, we discover a – like, we discover an individual that we – that is actually vibing out. And we’re like, I am DJing for her (laughter).
JONATHAN COULTON, BYLINE: Yeah.
EISENBERG: Oh, good.
DONWILL: Particularly if it is only a roomful of individuals casually milling about, and, like, there’s no one actually paying consideration. You simply discover that person who’s, like, into it. So I used to be like, oh, she likes it. So I used to be taking part in, like, that vein of songs. And I say present some papillon. I do not know what they’re saying. However I say present some. I do not even know if papillon…
VAN DELFT: (Singing) Present some papillon.
EISENBERG: I like that.
VAN DELFT: Present some butterfly, man.
EISENBERG: Present some butterfly.
DONWILL: However – so after the present ended, all of us ended up upstairs within the little factor indoors. And we have been simply form of, like, hanging out. And her query did get form of, like, deep. I do not bear in mind what the query was, however the humorous factor about me is that I dwell for the deep. Like, I am the individual that – like, assembly me at a celebration is form of bizarre as a result of I am like, so what’s probably the most disturbing factor about your life proper now? Like, I simply wish to know.
DONWILL: There is no gentle dialog with me. So it was simply form of, like – I used to be like…
VAN DELFT: We have been, like, meant to be mates.
DONWILL: Yeah. I used to be like, I see one thing in her.
VAN DELFT: ‘Trigger I am like, oh, my God. Let me let you know. The galaxy is increasing, however nobody is aware of how briskly.
EISENBERG: And, Bethany, you recognize, we have shared many a stand-up stage. However you additionally – you host a digital sequence on PBS in regards to the science of parenting, “Parentalogic.”
VAN DELFT: I do not do the science half, however sure.
EISENBERG: Yeah, however you are there to – you take up the science half. You’ve got – and as you as a dad or mum, is there – assist me. Is there something, any…
VAN DELFT: No. As a dad or mum, there’s nothing you are able to do.
VAN DELFT: It helps to have a pediatrician pal you could textual content.
VAN DELFT: Simply preserve it multi functional textual content.
VAN DELFT: Do not use texting as punctuation. Yeah, that helps. You don’t have any concept what number of instances I’ve texted Alok and been like, oh, my God. Is that this a factor? After which he’s chill. He is a guru. He is like, she’s going to determine this out. And I am not going to reply, so I do not embarrass her. After which he provides me sufficient time to determine it out. After which I textual content him again and go, figured it out. After which he texts instantly, I knew you’d.
EISENBERG: Aww, that is good on the finish. There is no reprimanding. It is similar to, good for you. I consider in you. It is simply that I consider in you.
VAN DELFT: You are able to do this.
EISENBERG: OK. Donwill, I used to be simply considering that, clearly, I’ve seen you on stage for some time, however you may have a brand new album popping out. You’ve got created some content material.
DONWILL: I do. The album’s titled “Don & Von.” So it is simply – we are the guys behind the rap group named after a fictitious lady.
DONWILL: It is form of, like, letting the facade down a bit of.
DONWILL: And the primary single known as “A Complete Temper,” that includes Jack Davey from J*Davey fame. And yeah, it is only a music speaking about discovering what we love and hate about ourselves and deciding, like, you recognize, all people’s making do and pushing by way of.
DONWILL: It is my little marketing campaign slogan – making do and pushing by way of. Vote for Tanya Morgan.
COULTON: Making do and pushing by way of.
VAN DELFT: That’s so good.
EISENBERG: All proper. Nicely, let’s play some video games.
VAN DELFT: Sure.
EISENBERG: So here is how this works. You get to work collectively on this one. And Jonathan Coulton goes to sing you the clues within the sport referred to as Different Aughts.
COULTON: Sure. That is the most recent in our Award Eligible sequence…
COULTON: …Of decade-themed music parodies about historical past. We rewrote fashionable songs from the 2000s, aka the aughts, to make them about issues from the aughts of different centuries – so the 1900s, the 1800s, going all the best way again to 12 months zero. So to earn full credit score, simply inform me what I am singing about or inform me the music that I am parodying or the artist who made it well-known. After which for further credit score, there is a bonus level. You may guess what century’s aughts the factor comes from.
VAN DELFT: Oh. OK. OK.
COULTON: All proper. Right here we go. (Singing, taking part in guitar) It is bought hammers and strings. Alicia Keys performs it. It is bought black and white keys. Billy Joel performs it. It may be grand or upright. Ray Charles performs it. Although he could not attain the pedals, Keyboard Cat performed it. Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
VAN DELFT: I do know what it is about.
COULTON: All proper.
VAN DELFT: Piano.
COULTON: A piano. That’s right.
DONWILL: It’s Beyonce – “Put A Ring On It.”
COULTON: Yeah, Beyonce’s “Single Girls.” That is proper. Nicely performed. For a bonus level, are you able to inform me, when do you suppose the primary piano appeared?
DONWILL: Beethoven was out right here taking part in the piano.
DONWILL: So we all know the piano existed in Beethoven’s…
VAN DELFT: No less than within the 1700s.
VAN DELFT: So earlier than that, proper?
DONWILL: I am very dangerous with years.
VAN DELFT: 1600s?
DONWILL: 1600s. Let’s go together with 1600s.
VAN DELFT: I really feel like they began with harpsichord, after which when individuals have been like, (imitating harpsichord)…
EISENBERG: An excessive amount of harpsichord.
VAN DELFT: Yeah, any individual was like, yo, yo, cling on. Cling on. How about this? After which it was like (vocalizing). And there was a piano.
EISENBERG: Somebody additionally was like, we want one thing to fall on cartoon characters.
COULTON: Proper. Harpsichords aren’t heavy sufficient. No one’s going to purchase it.
COULTON: You are very shut. It really is the 1700s when pianos first arrived on the scene. However your description of the historical past is right. There have been there have been different keyboard devices earlier than the – harpsichord, the clavichord, all these different issues. And the piano – the factor in regards to the piano was that you could possibly play loudly or softly on it as a result of it has these hammers. And the best way the mechanism works, you possibly can hit it softly or loudly. It is referred to as the – it was referred to as the pianoforte, which means smooth loud.
DONWILL: I prefer it.
VAN DELFT: I prefer it.
DONWILL: My new title is Pianoforte.
VAN DELFT: That may be a very – that is a dope rap title, Pianoforte. It truly is.
COULTON: (Laughter) Pianoforte.
DONWILL: I prefer it.
COULTON: All proper. Here is one other one. (Singing, taking part in guitar) Tried to cease the getaway automobile, but it surely will not go, go, go. I ought to have fled, however my telephone is useless. Oh, no, no, no. Electrical energy – lack of it’s screwing me. With out this little energy supply now, my life is gonna blow, blow, blow.
DONWILL: OK. It is a couple of telephone charger.
COULTON: That is really guess. We’re really on the lookout for a battery. I am going to give it to you as a result of that is – you have been mainly on to the facility factor. However battery is what we have been on the lookout for.
VAN DELFT: And it’s Amy Winehouse.
COULTON: That is proper. Amy Winehouse, “Rehab.”
DONWILL: A jam.
COULTON: It’s completely a jam. For a bonus level, are you able to inform me during which century’s aughts did Alessandro Volta invent the primary true battery?
EISENBERG: Oh, good.
COULTON: That is proper. Within the aughts of the 1800s – that is proper. It was often known as the voltaic pile, which is one other implausible rap title – the voltaic pile.
DONWILL: The voltaic – that is the title of the album.
VAN DELFT: I really feel like that is a punk band.
COULTON: (Laughter) Yeah, proper.
VAN DELFT: Do not you suppose? (Vocalizing, singing) Voltaic pile.
VAN DELFT: Perhaps hardcore.
EISENBERG: So Alessandro Volta – so volts are named after Volta?
COULTON: Yeah, that is proper.
COULTON: I do know.
EISENBERG: That is the way you try this. You bought to get well-known first.
COULTON: You bought to invent a factor.
VAN DELFT: I am unable to look ahead to Ophies (ph).
VAN DELFT: What are Ophies going to be?
EISENBERG: Measurements of fatigue.
VAN DELFT: How are you doing? How are you doing at the moment? I am all proper. I imply, I really feel like 11 or eight Ophies.
EISENBERG: That sounds good.
VAN DELFT: Eleven or eight.
COULTON: Eleven or eight.
VAN DELFT: I am unable to even say numbers so as.
EISENBERG: Eleven or eight is superb.
VAN DELFT: My mouth mentioned that with out my permission.
DONWILL: Which means you’re really at two Ophies.
EISENBERG: That is proper. You are at about two or three Ophies.
DONWILL: You are overestimating your Ophies.
COULTON: All proper, here is one other one.
(Singing) I exploit you once I want to emphasise titles of books, movies and albums. You form of appear like cursive to my eyes. Push the font to the appropriate. Do not you recognize that you just’re slanted?
DONWILL: I do know it.
VAN DELFT: Let’s do it collectively.
DONWILL: OK, on the depend of three – one, two, three – italics?
VAN DELFT: Italics.
COULTON: Italics is right. That is proper.
VAN DELFT: Sure.
COULTON: And the music – did you acknowledge the music?
DONWILL: I did acknowledge the music. Did you, Bethany?
VAN DELFT: I certain did.
DONWILL: On the depend of three, let’s do it once more – artist and music.
VAN DELFT: OK, let’s do it.
DONWILL: One, two, three – Britney Spears, “Poisonous.”
VAN DELFT: …Two, three – (mumbling) Spears – OK.
EISENBERG: Sure. That was good. That was good.
COULTON: And for a bonus level, are you able to inform me in what century’s aughts have been italics first used?
DONWILL: I wish to go together with – I will get particular – late 1700s, early 1800s.
COULTON: Very particular however incorrect.
COULTON: A lot earlier actually.
EISENBERG: I like all of the element, however here is the reality.
COULTON: It was within the 1500s, within the aughts of the 1500s. Based on Britannica, italics have been first invented by a printer in Venice who wished to emulate the look of casual handwriting.
VAN DELFT: Wow, OK.
DONWILL: Wow – 1500s?
COULTON: Yeah, 1500s.
DONWILL: They have been out right here fonting (ph) in 1500s?
VAN DELFT: Out right here in these streets fonting it up.
DONWILL: That is loopy. I believed it was simply – (laughter).
VAN DELFT: They have been like, it may be referred to as Leany (ph), and Italo (ph) was like, no, it is Italo. I am Italo. I made it up. That is referred to as italics.
COULTON: All proper, here is one other one.
(Singing) Mass is like vitality’s true brother. They will grow to be one another, the place the lightspeed and you will be advantageous on this equation from Einsteina (ph), -steina (ph), -steina, -steina, -ein (ph), -ein, -ein – from Albert Einsteina (ph), -steina, -ein, -ein, -ein.
VAN DELFT: That is RiRi.
COULTON: It’s RiRi. That is proper.
VAN DELFT: Rihanna. Rihanna.
DONWILL: The music is…
VAN DELFT: “Umbrella.”
COULTON: Mmm hmm. And you recognize what I used to be singing about?
DONWILL: I wish to say vitality.
COULTON: Truly, it’s Einstein’s principle.
VAN DELFT: Principle.
COULTON: Einstein’s equation – vitality equals – E equals…
DONWILL: MC squared.
COULTON: MC squared – that is proper. The speculation of particular relativity.
VAN DELFT: Yep, the idea of relativity.
EISENBERG: And simply so you recognize, should you would have mentioned common relativity, we might have mentioned no.
VAN DELFT: Oh, I believed you knew that.
COULTON: Completely completely different principle.
EISENBERG: Yeah, that is 10 years later.
DONWILL: Yeah, that is simply who your cousins and aunts and uncles are. Like, that is common relativity.
VAN DELFT: If she’s previous as an aunt, and she or he’s recognized your mom greater than 30 years, she is an aunt.
EISENBERG: That is proper.
DONWILL: True, certainly.
COULTON: Yeah, that is the rule. For a bonus level, in what century’s aughts did Albert Einstein first publish the idea of particular relativity?
VAN DELFT: Nineteen.
COULTON: Nineteen Nineties – that is proper. Actual 12 months was 1905.
DONWILL: It was simply, like, yesterday.
COULTON: All proper. All proper, that is the final one.
(Singing) It is “Me At The Zoo” or Charlie biting somebody’s finger. Simply add and watch, yeah, yeah. Because of you all of us noticed “Will It Mix?” and bought Rick-Roll’d (ph).
DONWILL: You bought a guess?
VAN DELFT: Sure.
VAN DELFT: Kelly Clarkson, “Since U Been Gone.” Oh, I am sorry. You first.
COULTON: No, no. No, no, that is good. Kelly – you are proper.
EISENBERG: You bought it.
COULTON: Kelly Clarkson, “Since U Been Gone.”
DONWILL: Yeah, ‘trigger I did not know the music in any respect. So thanks. Like, I…
DONWILL: Like, I may hear it, however I could not place it. However I feel it is about YouTube?
COULTON: It’s about YouTube. Yeah, that’s right.
DONWILL: While you mentioned Charlie biting the finger, that was once I misplaced it. I misplaced it.
EISENBERG: Proper. You have been introduced again to that second of watching that.
DONWILL: Yeah, I take into consideration that video no less than as soon as per week and chortle.
COULTON: For a bonus level, in what century’s aughts was the primary YouTube video, “Me At The Zoo,” uploaded?
DONWILL: I really feel prefer it was 2000s?
COULTON: (Laughter) Sure.
VAN DELFT: Yeah, yeah.
COULTON: It was the 2000s. That’s right.
EISENBERG: Nicely performed. I do know. It was – like, for a short second, you are like, was it?
DONWILL: Oh, God, was it 1900s?
EISENBERG: Extra with Bethany and Donwill after the break. Plus, from “Higher Name Saul” and “The Mandalorian,” I am going to discuss to TV dangerous man Giancarlo Esposito. This interview will blow you away. I am Ophira Eisenberg, and that is ASK ME ANOTHER from NPR.
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